in the democratic column. >> all right. >> bill: jamal? >> as -- mr. mayor, you mentioned some ads. but most people believe those ads are targeted at wisconsin, right? >> yeah st. paul and duluth is right on the border. and, you know, i think what the romney campaign has tried to do is fake the fact that they have grassroots support. it's kind of like faking like you are for the middle class, which we have seen them do so they have tried to make it look like they have support all over the place, but the reality is -- i have to tell you one very quick story. i was in sue city, iowa there was a little old lady making calls, and she had been there for six months. i was there six weeks period and she was still -- well she had moved across the room. so that's the kind of commitment we're talking about. >> bill: the romney campaign they are trying to paint him as a moderate who will work with democrats, sort of a middle of the road guy, whereas the reality is on most of the issues, he is about as extreme as you can get without being a tea partier, and maybe he is a tea partier.